do you think the city of washington is going to implode? do you think federal government is not going to be able to do its job anymore? i don't believe any of that for one nano second. >> i think that's a no, no and no if i recall correctly what the questions were. the sun is still going to come up. right now i think the first place to start cutting, i would eliminate the jobs of the people that say there's no place to cut. if they can't find a place to cut get rid of them. >> this is the old washington monument syndrome. you know this. when i worked down there, anytime there's a little bit of cuts someplace people start saying we're going to have to close down the washington monument. we're going to have to close down the national parks. we'll never have another tour nift washington, d.c. it's all lot of crap, ernie. all this is would be a small reduction in the growth of the federal workforce. and god knows we could use that. >> i know up wouldn't it be wonderful if we could actually bring that down to a freeze or even a 1% actual cut? no